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La mítica maxiserie protagonizada por el Escuadrón Supremo, con su secuela, inédita hasta ahora. ¿Qué ocurriría si los superhéroes tomaran el control? Mark Gruenwald, una de las figuras más queridas de Marvel, responde a la pregunta con una espectacular saga que impactó en los años ochenta.


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La mítica maxiserie protagonizada por el Escuadrón Supremo, con su secuela, inédita hasta ahora. ¿Qué ocurriría si los superhéroes tomaran el control? Mark Gruenwald, una de las figuras más queridas de Marvel, responde a la pregunta con una espectacular saga que impactó en los años ochenta.

30 review for Marvel Limited Edition: Escuadrón Supremo

  1. 4 out of 5

    Relstuart

    The gist of story is that the world is just starting to recover after an Alien took control of the super-hero population and began to take over the world. The heroes ended up fighting him off but were left with a world with a broken economy and a lot of suffering. So, they set out to be pro-active instead of re-active and figure out how to solve all the world's problems. Hunger, violence, crime, and disease. But, to solve these issues they have to take control. Take away weapons from military, p The gist of story is that the world is just starting to recover after an Alien took control of the super-hero population and began to take over the world. The heroes ended up fighting him off but were left with a world with a broken economy and a lot of suffering. So, they set out to be pro-active instead of re-active and figure out how to solve all the world's problems. Hunger, violence, crime, and disease. But, to solve these issues they have to take control. Take away weapons from military, police, and private citizens. Brainwash criminals so they want to do good. They end up setting up a super hero tyranny for the good of the people. Several of the team object. They leave before or during the efforts. The objectors finally gather some additional forces and showdown occurs between the two good guy factions over whether you can force the world to be better by brute power or not. While there is plenty of fun comic book fisticuffs Gruenwald deals with a lot of mature intellectual issues in this book. Issues of free will and proper use of power and sacrifice. Unlike many mainstream comics of the time, people die and stay dead in this book and people have to deal with it just like we do in real life. A quote that resonated with me: "Death claims all men eventually, and the tragedy of each loss is measured by the mark that man has left on the world." This book pre-dates The Dark Knight Returns, The Watchmen, Kingdom Come, Identity Crisis, yet these aforementioned books deal with some similar philosophical issues but usually not to the same extent we see in Squadron Supreme. Worth the read.

  2. 5 out of 5

    Javier Muñoz

    Quizás no sea tan conocido, pero este cómic juega en la liga de watchmen, kingdom come, astrocity... Además es anterior a todos ellos, se puede decir que Mark Gruenwald fue pionero en el intento por acercar los cómics de superhéroes a los problemas del mundo real, al tiempo que respondía preguntas incómodas que la mayoría de autores del género en esa época intentaban rehuir: ¿podrían los superheroes utilizar sus poderes para mejorar la vida de los seres humanos?, ¿sería adecuado?, ¿deseable?, ¿s Quizás no sea tan conocido, pero este cómic juega en la liga de watchmen, kingdom come, astrocity... Además es anterior a todos ellos, se puede decir que Mark Gruenwald fue pionero en el intento por acercar los cómics de superhéroes a los problemas del mundo real, al tiempo que respondía preguntas incómodas que la mayoría de autores del género en esa época intentaban rehuir: ¿podrían los superheroes utilizar sus poderes para mejorar la vida de los seres humanos?, ¿sería adecuado?, ¿deseable?, ¿sería el remedio peor que la enfermedad?. El origen del escuadrón supremo es curioso, surge de una especie de broma entre los autores de los vengadores en el año 1971 (Roy Thomas y Sal Buscema), que necesitaban un grupo para enfrentarse a los vengadores y decidieron crear uno de trasuntos de los grandes personajes de DC (Halcón Nocturno - Batman, Hyperion - Superman, Zumbador - Flash y Doctor Espectro - Green Lantern), que formaban un grupo llamado el escuadron siniestro. Mark gruenwald, gran aficionado a los cómics de superhéroes tanto de marvel como de DC, empleó otra encarnación de estos personajes, añadiendo otros trasuntos de personajes de la liga de la justicia (Anfibio - Aquaman, Princesa Poder - Wonder Woman, Lady Alondra - Canario Negro, Capitan Halcón - Hawkman, Pulgarcito - Átomo...) para crear esta serie limitada de 12 números que pretende convertirse en la historia definitiva de la liga de la justicia con personajes utilizables por marvel. Aunque en su inicio se trata de un pastiche, desde las primeras páginas podemos apreciar que esta no es una historia de superhéroes típica, en el primer número ya se perfila la idea principal que impregna toda la serie: un grupo de los principales superhéroes de la tierra que se propone en el plazo de un año eliminar los grandes problemas de la humanidad para crear una utopía. A esto se opone desde el principio Halcón nocturno, que opina que las mejoras en la sociedad no deben ser regaladas sino conquistadas a lo largo del tiempo y ante el acuerdo del resto de miembros decide dejar el grupo. A partir de este punto asistimos a una serie de movimientos del grupo de superhéroes para conseguir esa utopía, algunos de los cuales vulneran el libre albedrío y plantean diversos dilemas morales, diferencias entre los miembros del grupo y oposición de algunos grupos de ciudadanos. Esto ya de por sí provoca que el cómic se desmarque de otros de su época por los temas que propone, pero es que además el hecho de que los personajes tienen una importancia muy limitada en el universo marvel permite a Gruenwald utilizarlos a su antojo. Sin ánimo de entrar en spoilers sólo comentar que se pueden ver múltiples muertes de personajes importantes, decisiones muy controvertidas de algunos de los personajes... en general aunque es una historia muy superheroica nos muestra el lado débil de cada uno de los héroes, les hace falibles y humanos, con más conflictos y más contradicciones. La historia se puede leer sin ningún conocimiento previo de los personajes, el dibujo no es de los mejores de su época pero cumple y tiene buenos momentos. En todo caso no es lo fundamental, aquí lo importante es disfrutar de una historia puramente superheroica, que se adelantó a su tiempo en muchos aspectos, planteando temáticas que veríamos luego repetidas en obras posteriores, intentando reflejar las dificultades que tendrían los superhéroes al enfrentarse a problemas del mundo real y mostrando el lado oscuro del impacto que pueden tener las decisiones de los héroes, por buenas que sean sus intenciones. Un clásico por mérito propio y el mejor trabajo sin duda de un gran autor como es Mark Gruenwald.

  3. 5 out of 5

    Martin

    *** The Omnibus collects Squadron Supreme #1-12, Captain America #314 as well as the Squadron Supreme: Death Of A Universe graphic novel. *** On the face of it, this is a solid 4-star book, but a number of elements & factors bump it up to 5 stars: - it shows a realistic progression of events once the heroes decide they'll take over "for the greater good" (something the JLA, or the Avengers, or the FF either don't have the balls for or were never permitted to do) >> within the group (schisms, dissensi *** The Omnibus collects Squadron Supreme #1-12, Captain America #314 as well as the Squadron Supreme: Death Of A Universe graphic novel. *** On the face of it, this is a solid 4-star book, but a number of elements & factors bump it up to 5 stars: - it shows a realistic progression of events once the heroes decide they'll take over "for the greater good" (something the JLA, or the Avengers, or the FF either don't have the balls for or were never permitted to do) >> within the group (schisms, dissension, parting of ways, betrayals, etc.) and also >> without (apprehension, rebellion, reluctant acceptance from some and absolute refusal from others). - it pre-dates the so-called "seminal" works of the mid-80's, namely Moore's Watchmen and Miller's Batman: The Dark Knight Returns (view spoiler)[I personally found them both highly overrated and Watchmen especially boring. Gasp! Blasphemy! Grab you torches and pitchforks! (hide spoiler)] It also pre-dates Identity Crisis, not exactly the best book around, but it had caused quite a stir when it first came out when it revealed that [some of the JLA] heroes had been brainwashing/mind-wiping the villains for years !! Well, sorry Mr. Meltzer, but Mark Gruenwald already explored that road in this book, and handled it beautifully, too! - the characters (even though they were new to me) felt fully developped and they went through more character growth in 12 issues than the JLA do in years . Even the villains were fun! - some characters die and - OMG! - actually stay dead! So, sure, this 80's book might seem old-fashioned to you "kids" out there. I personally grew up with these comic books, but I also grew OUT of them. The art with the limited colour palette I can tolerate (no digital colouring back then) but it is usually the script, the cheesy dialogue, the thought-bubbles, and the "witty" [that was sarcasm] comments from the editor that turn me off. I go for more modern stuff nowadays. That I rated this book 5 stars (even 4 would've been good, no?) just goes to show you (1) how ahead of its time it was, and (2) that it's just a really good book.

  4. 5 out of 5

    Chris

    Here's the deal with Squadron Supreme and why I'm rating it two stars: I'm reading this collection after the fact, fully aware that this mini-series is hugely influential and has been a huge source of inspiration for many other stories in the superhero genre. Having said that… I read those stories first and it put me off SS a little. It's solid, workmanlike comic storytelling but I found it a bit of a slog. Your mileage should and probably will definitely vary on this one though. Here's the deal with Squadron Supreme and why I'm rating it two stars: I'm reading this collection after the fact, fully aware that this mini-series is hugely influential and has been a huge source of inspiration for many other stories in the superhero genre. Having said that… I read those stories first and it put me off SS a little. It's solid, workmanlike comic storytelling but I found it a bit of a slog. Your mileage should and probably will definitely vary on this one though.

  5. 5 out of 5

    Camilo

    3,5

  6. 5 out of 5

    Jason Luna

    A concept that starts off equal parts goofy and heavy handed, actually becomes exciting, nuanced, and manages to make social issues the central sphere without ruining itself with hokeyness, but with actual curiosity and dramatic tension. It starts with a lot of prolonged exposition, but once you're through understanding its an alternate universe, and explaining how the Squadron Supreme wants to save the world from its underlying ills, and wondering why they seem like DC's Justice League but this A concept that starts off equal parts goofy and heavy handed, actually becomes exciting, nuanced, and manages to make social issues the central sphere without ruining itself with hokeyness, but with actual curiosity and dramatic tension. It starts with a lot of prolonged exposition, but once you're through understanding its an alternate universe, and explaining how the Squadron Supreme wants to save the world from its underlying ills, and wondering why they seem like DC's Justice League but this is Marvel, and the tension of how the Squadron will do these things, how ethical things are, if they'll get away with it, etc. it moves quite artfully and well. There's a great issue to issue feeling of exploring new ground, doing unexpected things and taking risks with colorful and at least passably interesting superhero characters. Lots of exciting things are possible on a universal scale. The crossover with Captain America was not that different than the usual Squadron Supreme narrative, but still interesting and well written by Mark Gruenwald. The resolution of the "Squadron fixes the world's problems" was kind of the peak of the book. There's a separate graphic novel afterwards, where the Squadron Supreme must face a giant white blob in space that threatens to eat the universe. It's a pretty good story, mostly an odd breath of relief after the fractional world fixing storyline that is 6/7th of this book, but I'd say it's mostly ok. A lot of prolonged, PROLONGED graphic novel length dread with a couple weird almost cop out endings. But the graphic novel's definitely above the good side on the writing even with its relative banality, and always, in every issue, great art work from a couple different artists (Paul Ryan was one of them) keep it nice to look at it. But its Gruenwald's writing that make this worth the effort, very imaginative and shocking while still superhero fun stuff you expect from Marvel. A real dramatic story, not just a comic book. Wish there was more of this in the world. 5/5

  7. 4 out of 5

    Rowan Grover

    Good, but the themes and ideas were kind of dated. The GN at the end is the best of the content, with great art.

  8. 4 out of 5

    Juliano Bittencourt

    O Watchmen da Marvel? Sim! Mark Gruenwald pegou personagens irrelevantes e criou um épico atemporal. Acredito ser uma das primeiras histórias em que um autor mostra heróis realmente mudando o mundo.

  9. 5 out of 5

    David Rubio

    Un trabajo muy interesante que siembra semillas para los grandes hitos del final de década. La verdad que es una lectura muy fluida, con algunos dejes de la época pero genial construida.

  10. 5 out of 5

    Shannon Appelcline

    Squadron Supreme. There had been numerous Squadron Supreme appearances before this mini-series, most notably the Serpent Crown and Overmind affairs. However, this was the story that truly turned them into real people, not just secondary characters and not just knockoffs of the JLA (though they continue to wear their Justice League origins on their sleeves). The character studies in this mini-series are wonderful and often full of heart. However, this comic is truly great because it's one of the g Squadron Supreme. There had been numerous Squadron Supreme appearances before this mini-series, most notably the Serpent Crown and Overmind affairs. However, this was the story that truly turned them into real people, not just secondary characters and not just knockoffs of the JLA (though they continue to wear their Justice League origins on their sleeves). The character studies in this mini-series are wonderful and often full of heart. However, this comic is truly great because it's one of the great superhero deconstructions of the '80s, right up there with Miracle Man, The Watchmen, and The Dark Knight. It imagines what heroes would do if they were going to change the world and what they would do if faced with human foibles. So Dr. Spectrum (Green Lantern) is more self-absorbed and selfish than Hal Jordon ever was; Nuke (Firestorm) is actually radioactive and causing the death of his parents; and Tom Thumb (Atom) is unsure of his place in the Squadron. The list goes on. The plot of changing the world is a great one, because it's the sort of thing that superheroes should think of, but it was rarely even considered in earlier Ages. The Squadron Supreme may be the most complete investigation ever of the trope. It's not surprising that it inevitably leads the Fight of the Titans that also seems common in deconstructionist superhero stories of this type ... but Greenwald doesn't pull any punches, and the result is tense and heart breaking. By the time you get done with this mini-series, your mood should be hovering somewhere between awe and the desire to read more [10/10]. Death of a Universe. After the scope and innovation of the Squadron Supreme series, this is somewhat of a disappointment. It's just a fairly normative (albeit well-written) superhero comic. It's great to see the Squad again, and it's great to follow-up on the miniseries just a week later. The artwork is also quite nice here, primarily (I think) due to the coloring. But the character moments are few and far between and there's nothing here that couldn't have happened in the Avengers (or the JLA). Oh, and the problem really is solved by a big (little) deus ex machina [6+/10].

  11. 4 out of 5

    Justin

    This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. I never read the series in its entirety but did read several issues and the Grand Guignol finale. I haven't noticed, for example, the enthusiastic discussions of the morality of behaviour modification. Or the way people seemed opposed to large scale cryogenic preservation. Slippery slopes were something that my juvenile mind didn't quite absorb. The story is an expansion on the marvel cornerstone "with great power comes great responsibility". The Squadron Supreme, a marvel analogue of dc's Justi I never read the series in its entirety but did read several issues and the Grand Guignol finale. I haven't noticed, for example, the enthusiastic discussions of the morality of behaviour modification. Or the way people seemed opposed to large scale cryogenic preservation. Slippery slopes were something that my juvenile mind didn't quite absorb. The story is an expansion on the marvel cornerstone "with great power comes great responsibility". The Squadron Supreme, a marvel analogue of dc's Justice League, finds their nation in ruins after a run in with a pair of super villains and a Batman presidency. So they enact the Utopia protocol, to make everything better. They rebuild the country's infrastructure and commence to eliminate crime and poverty. They also try to eliminate guns, which I think must have seemed a lot less ludicrous prior to the Reagan assassination attempt and the following passage of the Brady bill.

  12. 4 out of 5

    Will Cooper

  13. 4 out of 5

    Michael Hohman

  14. 5 out of 5

    David Von gogol

  15. 4 out of 5

    James

  16. 5 out of 5

    Mike Oates

  17. 5 out of 5

    Derek Royal

  18. 5 out of 5

    Kevin B. Eckert

  19. 4 out of 5

    Ian

  20. 5 out of 5

    Armani

  21. 5 out of 5

    Waylon

  22. 4 out of 5

    Adam

  23. 5 out of 5

    Martin Ralya

  24. 4 out of 5

    Ravenel Mansfield

  25. 4 out of 5

    Mykhe

  26. 4 out of 5

    Andrew Gaska

  27. 5 out of 5

    Marcel Monpatron

  28. 4 out of 5

    Andrew

  29. 4 out of 5

    Peter Ek

  30. 5 out of 5

    Charlie

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